Saw III: Director's Cut (US - DVD R1)
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Feature
Contrary to what I’m sure most regular readers will assume, I never saw Saw II or saw Saw III. When I saw the first Saw (aka: Saw I) I was nominally impressed with what I saw. I saw a clever horror concept, I saw some flashy direction, and I saw a decent low budget début. What I didn’t saw was the future of popular horror. Apparently I saw wrong because each Saw continues to make more money than the last Saw. Saw is the new Halloween franchise - that sure fire quick buck October release that will continue sawing away until enough people finally get sick of it and it stops making any more money. Who saw this coming?

I’ll start by stating that I think this whole ‘torture porn’ thing is a load of bull hooey. The title was made up by a bunch of media pseudo-pundits looking for a social phenomenon where there wasn’t one. People that only watch movies made in the last 15 years bought into the hype and were generally offended because it sounded like they should be. Meanwhile, 300 Spartans gut 10,000 Persians, Spider-Man shoves a man’s face into an oncoming subway car, and Transformers are torn asunder to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, and not one Joe Schmoe theater stomper puts two-and-two together.
Anyone fond of exploitation flicks and the grindhouse will tell you about several dozen real torture porn films, like Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS, Cannibal Ferox, The Gestapo’s Last Orgy, going all the way back to 1964’s Two Thousand Maniacs and before (not to mention Japan's Guinea Pig series, which was mistaken for a real deal snuff film by none other than Charlie Sheen). Movies that feed into an audience’s need to see really bad things happen to people, movies that titillate through images of torture and inescapable graphic violence. The Saw series is just feeding into something that’s been part of the zeitgeist since entertainment was born, it is nothing new, and neither is the public outcry.
Enough of my monotony though, if anyone here at DVDActive.com should like Saw III it’s me – the guy who loves ooey-gooey horror movies, and the guy who has an unhealthy respect for exploitation films. Saw III is an exploitation film pure and simple, and it wastes no time exploitin’. I’m sure there are plenty of term papers to be written on the subject of level of acceptable violence in a mainstream feature (despite my didactic sermon in the previous paragraph, the mall theater acceptance of horror movies this brand of brutal is something new), and I’m sure Carol J. Clover and Barry Keith Grant are preparing new chapters for their respective books on gender in horror films, but the folks at LionsGate only care about the bottom line.

The film gets off to a goopy start with a series of cringe inducing ‘games’, and though such a thing can grow dull quickly, I was rooting for a plotless hunk of hard-R action, just because I’d find the existence of such a thing hilarious. Then around the 20-minute mark they had to go and throw in a plot, and I realized that I had been watching 20 minutes of Saw II loose end tying. Now I only saw, or viewed the first Saw on two occasions, and I never surveyed the second film so the continued narrative went over my head a bit, but I don’t think recalling all the characters is a requirement. Fortunately, most of the callbacks are to the first film.
My problem with this plot is what it does to the Jigsaw character - it turns him into a big baby. In the first film he’s obviously not happy about dying of inoperable cancer, but he’s accepted it, and finds a creative outlet for his frustrations. Frankly I was sick at the time I saw, sorry watched the first film, and personally dealing with cold mannered doctors, so I found myself rooting for him a little bit. Here he’s afraid of dying and taking it out on a doctor he barely knows (yes, there is a twist to this, but it’s so convoluted that I couldn’t buy it, not even in this film’s universe of suspended disbelief). Bringing in Amanda as an apprentice (I did remember her from the first film) is clever enough, especially because she doesn’t follow the rules Jigsaw set forth, but too much time is spent trying to mold her into a sympathetic character, and it just doesn’t work.
The ‘B’ story at least manages to expound upon the series’ themes a bit. Instead of dealing with traditional self-loathing through horrible tests of physical pain, Jigsaw makes his latest victim deal with his own creeping vengeance by sticking him in a series of moral dilemmas. This kind of robs the series of its solitary iota of originality – the fact that these victims kill themselves – but really, how many times can an audience watch the exact same thing. Don’t answer that. It’s nice to see that the filmmakers are trying to find something to say about the human condition, unfortunately they were beaten to the punch a very long time ago. Still, plus one for a try at something new.

The movie is colourful and well shot without too many MTV cuts or shaky camera movements. Director Darren Lynn Bousman has his green gels well under control, and he has some idea of how to develop suspense. The film’s ick and cringe factor actually surprised me. The big gross out moments didn’t really affect me personally (I have a high tolerance), but the little things, like a character tearing a section of his face off against a freezing pipe, made me squirm a bit. I didn’t catch the theatrical release, so I have no clue as to how strong these scenes were in theaters, but this disc actually earns its ‘unrated’ status. Fans of heavy gore should enjoy themselves, but I’d rather they spent their time with more interesting filmmakers like Lucio Fulci and Peter Jackson.
Video
Saw III is a pretty grimy looking little film, with high contrast and deep shadows obscuring details, and more sour apple Jolly Rancher filters than you can shake a severed limb at. The disc looks as good as such a film can, with crisp lines, bright colours, and deep blacks. Noise is minimal, and grain is, I’m assuming, intended. This isn’t the best showcase for an HD set, but I noticed no overt errors, and can’t imagine the film looking any ‘nicer’.
Audio
I do very much enjoy the over-the-top sound design on these films. The aggressive soundtracks are almost surreal, and contain some of the loudest ambient noise on DVD record. Sometimes these larger than life effects are more comical than scary, but there is no mistaking their clarity on this disc. The DTS track (which was not included on the previous releases) is awash with sound, bleeding from every channel at practically every moment of runtime. It’s become a bit of a cliché over the last few years from horror films to cover their budget constraints with noisy soundtracks, but I haven’t grown tired of it yet.

Extras
Apparently my Jigsaw torture is to be bland-commentaried to death. This director’s cut release (for those keeping score, this is the third R1 release for a film that is yet to have aged a year) contains no less than three commentary tracks. I liked the film a lot more than I thought I would, but sitting through it three more times while commentators desperately search their memory banks for stuff to talk about is enough to make me go mad. I cheated and clicked between tracks when they started to dry up.
Executive producer and co-writer Leigh Whannell (he was in the first movie, and has a bit part in this one) is a happy guy, a real deal geek, and he seems really sweet, but his track is all about congratulating everyone he’s ever met in his entire life. I’m exaggerating, but really there isn’t much to learn here, except for the moments where he recalls his original scripts. Director Lynn Bousman is good to have around because he points out some of the deleted footage (though he isn’t specific as to what’s ‘unrated’ cut and what’s director’s cut), but this is the third time he’s recorded a commentary for this particular film. Actor J Larose is there to help (the chain trap guy at the beginning of the film), but he doesn’t do much more than interject with a few ‘yeahs’. Tobin Bell and Shawnee Smith’s track is really, really dull, at almost 50% total silence. I think Bell says maybe six words total.

Disc two is pretty much a joke. ‘Jigsaw’s Plan’ is an incredibly simple trivia game with film and sound clips. I lost interest before I ‘won’. ‘Choose the Death’ is a look at the traps of Saw III (along with three from Saw II, which is weird). Each scene plays in its entirety, and is accompanied by an unnamed commentator (perhaps the production designer?), design sketches, and storyboards. ‘Looking Tortured’ is a make-up effect how-to, which is actually pretty educational. Our technician uses everyday materials, so this stuff should be pretty affordable as well. There are also some trailers, a few text screens where the filmmakers list their favourite parts of the films, and a stupid music video for a horrible song.
The last extra, and the reason inpatient Saw fans might want to rent this disc, is a sneak peak at Saw IV. If this footage is all we have to go on, it already looks pretty bad. The lighting is dull, the framing is bad, the make-up is weak, and it’s not scary at all. I was sure it had to have been made by a different, less practiced director, but it isn’t. It appears that he has somehow devolved as a filmmaker (though in his defense the framing is now 2.35:1 instead of 1.85:1, which is what I call progress). The only way the scene works is if it’s meant to be amusing, like the bloodiest Laurel and Hardy bit ever filmed.

Overall
So did I love Saw III? No, but I didn’t hate it either. It was an effectively entertaining, sometimes gross, and even occasionally dramatic waste of my time. It was actually better than I thought it would be. I can’t tell fans what the difference between this directors cut and the previous ‘unrated’ cut, but there seems to be an extra 8 minutes or so to look forward to. The DTS track might also entice people into a double dip, but the extras are nothing special, and a sneak peak at a movie coming out in a manner of weeks isn’t worth the price either. Instead, I recommend spending your hard earned cash on the original vengeful trap master - The Abominable Dr. Phibes. I think you’ll be shocked at the similarities.
Review by Gabriel Powers
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Just wait till they announce Saw 5 - either in the future or in the past around the 1400's.......
It's just a movie....
It's just a movie....
It has to be said that "SAW 2" does really need to be seen before "SAW 3". Unlike most sequels the "Saw" films do have many links back and forth with each other.
Anyway....This was by far the worst of the 3 films, mainly because the ending needed a MASSIVE amount of luck and stupidly accurate timing, that could never be judged, of when someone would walk through a door!
It was a rare case of a "Saw" film's normally excellent twisty plotting falling down.
Anyway....This was by far the worst of the 3 films, mainly because the ending needed a MASSIVE amount of luck and stupidly accurate timing, that could never be judged, of when someone would walk through a door!
It was a rare case of a "Saw" film's normally excellent twisty plotting falling down.
This was the worst of the series (but was still pretty good). Well, at least for another few days. The fourth looks horrible.
I give up on this one. No matter how long you wait in the hope of getting the definative versions, they always manage to come up with another edit.
I bought SAW Uncut Version, then waited for SAW 3 Extreme Edition (assuming it was going to be sort of the unrated full version) and picked up SAW 2 Directors Cut (at the same time) and had a back to back screening of 2&3.
I therfore had a good chance of these films being as uncut as they could be. But NOOOOOOO! Think again buster.
Are the differences between the Extreme Version (R2) and the Directors Cut much to worry about given that I'm not a huge horror fan?
I bought SAW Uncut Version, then waited for SAW 3 Extreme Edition (assuming it was going to be sort of the unrated full version) and picked up SAW 2 Directors Cut (at the same time) and had a back to back screening of 2&3.
I therfore had a good chance of these films being as uncut as they could be. But NOOOOOOO! Think again buster.
Are the differences between the Extreme Version (R2) and the Directors Cut much to worry about given that I'm not a huge horror fan?
"i'm watching this right now. the 'director's cut' has a decent amount of added minutes that i felt worthy of purchase. i used to be a projectionist for theatres. so, i had seen these three films each halloween. more than once. sometimes four times in a night, as i did with the third film. i notice something new each and every time and i've learned to appreciate them more and more.. because, let's face it man... these films aren't getting dull. if they still manage to wow you? even a little bit? there's still something there. at least it wasn't Halloween 4: The Return of Micheal Myers."
-jo3
-jo3
Kakihara69 wrote: Chris Gould wrote: Some people clearly have logic issues here.
Hey, easy, man. No reason to insult my intelligence. I wasn't trying to offend Gabe, who I think is a solid reviewer and I appreciate this website. No reason at all to make a smart-ass comment.
He very well may have been refering to Russell78.
Hey, easy, man. No reason to insult my intelligence. I wasn't trying to offend Gabe, who I think is a solid reviewer and I appreciate this website. No reason at all to make a smart-ass comment.
He very well may have been refering to Russell78.
Chris Gould wrote: Some people clearly have logic issues here.
Hey, easy, man. No reason to insult my intelligence. I wasn't trying to offend Gabe, who I think is a solid reviewer and I appreciate this website. No reason at all to make a smart-ass comment.
Hey, easy, man. No reason to insult my intelligence. I wasn't trying to offend Gabe, who I think is a solid reviewer and I appreciate this website. No reason at all to make a smart-ass comment.
I already have the two-disc R3, which is unrated and with a full bitrate DTS. It also has (I think) all the commentaries from this version. But I would be interested in seeing this longer cut...
Some people clearly have logic issues here.
It's much less that the first 20 minutes are tying up loose ends from part two, than that the three films taken together are like those nested Russian dolls, fitting into each other. Part two has a number of callbacks to part one, part three has multiple points of connection with both part one and two. If you didn't like it, no prob, but they really do fit together well; it's almost as though they made a 5 hour horror epic, then cut it into three films for theatrical release... and then made a part four. (No idea what that's about, can't wait to see it.)
No. It's like seeing 'Movie: Part One' and thinking it was okay, hearing that there was a sequel, but not seeing where the filmmakers could possibly take the story and skipping it. Then, three years later 'Movie: Part Three' shows up on the doorstep, and even though you didn't ask for it you decide you're curious enough to watch it for review.
Gabe Powers wrote:
That said, I still have no interest in seeing the second film. I watch several movies a week and don't have time to squeeze in too many I'm simply not interested in.
Ok, I'm still confused. If you liked the first film, why weren't you interested in the sequel yet were interested in viewing Saw III. That just doesn't oompute with me. It's almost like watching Godfather and liking it and then choosing to skip Godfather II and watch Godfather III instead. Now, don't take this as me comparing the quality of the Saw films to the Godfather films because I'm definitely not by a long shot. I'm comparing the viewing habit of a trilogy. Yet I still feel compelled to go to Coppolla's house and apologizing for mentioning the Saw Trilogy in the same breath as his Godfather Trilogy. Still, my point still stands. Just curious.
That said, I still have no interest in seeing the second film. I watch several movies a week and don't have time to squeeze in too many I'm simply not interested in.
Ok, I'm still confused. If you liked the first film, why weren't you interested in the sequel yet were interested in viewing Saw III. That just doesn't oompute with me. It's almost like watching Godfather and liking it and then choosing to skip Godfather II and watch Godfather III instead. Now, don't take this as me comparing the quality of the Saw films to the Godfather films because I'm definitely not by a long shot. I'm comparing the viewing habit of a trilogy. Yet I still feel compelled to go to Coppolla's house and apologizing for mentioning the Saw Trilogy in the same breath as his Godfather Trilogy. Still, my point still stands. Just curious.
The Director's Cut would be more impressive if we didn't have the unrated version in January, since most of the 'new' footage is in that release, save for a dream sequence with Amanda, a fight scene between Amanda and Lynn, and an extended ending that I think plays better than it did before.
And for my money, Saw III is the best of the three.
And for my money, Saw III is the best of the three.
Russell78 wrote: "This director’s cut release (for those keeping score, this is the third R1 release for a film that is yet to have aged a year)"
In your review you stated this as if this director's cut release is a Triple Dip, when it's not. Aside from the R-Rated and Unrated versions having a very minimal difference between the two, the original rated/unrated releases have the same special features:
For Christ's sake! Minimal difference or not, they are different. Different is the key word. That and 'release'. You are discribing three different 'releases' in your posts. Stop and turn on your brain for a second.
In your review you stated this as if this director's cut release is a Triple Dip, when it's not. Aside from the R-Rated and Unrated versions having a very minimal difference between the two, the original rated/unrated releases have the same special features:
For Christ's sake! Minimal difference or not, they are different. Different is the key word. That and 'release'. You are discribing three different 'releases' in your posts. Stop and turn on your brain for a second.
The SAW Films took a speed bump on this one after two kick ass films,but it looks like its going to speed up again with SAW IV!
Gabe's right on this one. Now give it a rest before you piss him off.
Saw 1 to 4 are all great.The best franchise in ages since Friday the 13th.
"This director’s cut release (for those keeping score, this is the third R1 release for a film that is yet to have aged a year)"
In your review you stated this as if this director's cut release is a Triple Dip, when it's not. Aside from the R-Rated and Unrated versions having a very minimal difference between the two, the original rated/unrated releases have the same special features:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/saw_3/dvd.php?s...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/saw_3/dvd.php?s...
I am only pointing this out because to a misinformed reader of this site who has yet to buy Saw III on DVD, might think that there are 3 TOTALLY different versions of this on DVD when there are only 2. An editors note in that part of the review that would say "The fullscreen rated and ws unrated have the same special features, see our previous review" would be much more helpful.
In your review you stated this as if this director's cut release is a Triple Dip, when it's not. Aside from the R-Rated and Unrated versions having a very minimal difference between the two, the original rated/unrated releases have the same special features:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/saw_3/dvd.php?s...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/saw_3/dvd.php?s...
I am only pointing this out because to a misinformed reader of this site who has yet to buy Saw III on DVD, might think that there are 3 TOTALLY different versions of this on DVD when there are only 2. An editors note in that part of the review that would say "The fullscreen rated and ws unrated have the same special features, see our previous review" would be much more helpful.
New villain. You know it's coming.
One of the bigger problems with Saw III for me is that the first twenty minutes basically amount to Saw 2.5. The story doesn't actually start until Lynn gets kidnapped.
One of the bigger problems with Saw III for me is that the first twenty minutes basically amount to Saw 2.5. The story doesn't actually start until Lynn gets kidnapped.
The third one is better than the second, but none of them are particularly great. Can't believe there's a fourth when the villain is dead.
Kakihara69 wrote: If you liked Saw 1, why didn't you see Saw II? It's not like it's a hard to find film now. Worst of all, is that you decide to see Saw III first, which completely takes away any chance of you enjoying Saw II. Many would tell you Saw II is the better film. Many would also tell you, you don't have the proper context of critiquing Saw III without having seen Saw II. Whatever one may feel of all 3 films, I'm sure we can all agree that it's a series where the sequels really depend on one another.
I am sent the DVDs I review by the distributor. I only choose what to watch and what to ignore. Perhaps context would've made the film better, but the assumption is that each film is made to stand on its own. As a critic it's my job to offer my opinion, which readers can take or leave. I made it clear that my opinion was based on limited knowledge of the series, which I think concludes my obligation to my readers. By doing that my personal context is made clear.
That said, I still have no interest in seeing the second film. I watch several movies a week and don't have time to squeeze in too many I'm simply not interested in.
I am sent the DVDs I review by the distributor. I only choose what to watch and what to ignore. Perhaps context would've made the film better, but the assumption is that each film is made to stand on its own. As a critic it's my job to offer my opinion, which readers can take or leave. I made it clear that my opinion was based on limited knowledge of the series, which I think concludes my obligation to my readers. By doing that my personal context is made clear.
That said, I still have no interest in seeing the second film. I watch several movies a week and don't have time to squeeze in too many I'm simply not interested in.
Kakihara69 wrote: Many would also tell you, you don't have the proper context of critiquing Saw III without having seen Saw II.
Rubbish. And if that was the case, it would be an additional negative point about this film.
Rubbish. And if that was the case, it would be an additional negative point about this film.
If you liked Saw 1, why didn't you see Saw II? It's not like it's a hard to find film now. Worst of all, is that you decide to see Saw III first, which completely takes away any chance of you enjoying Saw II. Many would tell you Saw II is the better film. Many would also tell you, you don't have the proper context of critiquing Saw III without having seen Saw II. Whatever one may feel of all 3 films, I'm sure we can all agree that it's a series where the sequels really depend on one another.
Russell78 wrote: The Unrated WS version and R-Rated Fullscreen were released on the same day, making it the first release
Gotta side with Gabe here. I'm not quite sure what planet that makes sense on, but it ain't this one.
Gotta side with Gabe here. I'm not quite sure what planet that makes sense on, but it ain't this one.

Russell78 wrote: The Unrated WS version and R-Rated Fullscreen were released on the same day, making it the first release, Director's cut is the 2nd. It would be the 3rd release if the rated was released then the unrated at a later date, then the director's cut.
That makes no sense at all. Drop it.
That makes no sense at all. Drop it.
Russell78 wrote: The Unrated WS version and R-Rated Fullscreen were released on the same day, making it the first release, Director's cut is the 2nd. It would be the 3rd release if the rated was released then the unrated at a later date, then the director's cut.Which makes for 1...2...3 releases of the movie. Geez.
Gabe's right about Phibes too, probably my all-time favorite Vincent Price flick--the sequel co-starring Robert Quarry isn't half bad either even if it loses something from the first film.
Gabe's right about Phibes too, probably my all-time favorite Vincent Price flick--the sequel co-starring Robert Quarry isn't half bad either even if it loses something from the first film.
The Unrated WS version and R-Rated Fullscreen were released on the same day, making it the first release, Director's cut is the 2nd. It would be the 3rd release if the rated was released then the unrated at a later date, then the director's cut.
Russell78 wrote: This is the 2nd R1 release of Saw III, not the 3rd.
R rated, Unrated and Director's cut.
R rated, Unrated and Director's cut.
I like this movie
This is the 2nd R1 release of Saw III, not the 3rd.


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Disc Details
Release Date:
23rd October 2007
Discs:
2
Disc Type:
Single side, dual layer
RCE:
No
Video:
NTSC
Aspect:
1.85:1
Anamorphic:
Yes
Colour:
Yes
Audio:
DTS 5.1 English, Dolby Digital 5.1 English
Subtitles:
English, Spanish
Extras:
Director/Actor Commentary, Producer/Co-Writer Commentary, Actor Commentary, Trivia, 'Killer Inside'' Music Video, 'Choose the Death', Make-Up How-To, Filmmaker Favs, Trailers, Sneak Peak at Saw IV
Easter Egg:
No
Feature Details
Director:
Darren Lynn Bousman
Cast:
Tobin Bell, Shawnee Smith, Angus McFayden, Bahar Soomekh
Genre:
Horror
Length:
121 minutes
Ratings
Amazon.com
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