Unborn But Forgotten (UK - DVD R2)
Scott McKenzie takes a look at another in the long line of recent Tartan releases
Feature
Han is a young documentary filmmaker, who is tagging along with her friend Lee, a cyber crime investigator. Lee is looking into the deaths of pregnant women and discovers that they all visited the same website fifteen days before their demise. Friends of the victims say that they saw a vision of themselves dying on the website. During the course of the investigation, Han visits the website and the countdown begins…

Forgive me for starting with an aggressive tone, but enough with the Ringu clones already! Anyone familiar with Hideo Nakata’s groundbreaking horror will no doubt recognise the structure of the story. A young woman stumbles on a spooky item that will cause her death within a finite amount of time, which gives her just long enough to find out what’s going on. Oh, and there’s some scary kids in there somewhere as well. That template has been reworked ad nauseum over recent years and unfortunately Unborn But Forgotten is no exception.
It’s not just the plot that makes the movie over-familiar. Everything about Unborn But Forgotten feels like many other better movies done badly. The opening titles have Seven written all over them and the style is a complete mis-match with the rest of the movie. There’s nothing here are you can’t find in many other generic horror movies currently available on the Tartan Asia Extreme label and you could be forgiven for mistaking this movie for any number of them if you’ve been unfortunate enough to sit through them all.

The success of horror movies depends on the filmmakers’ ability to draw the audience in with convincing characters and scary but believable situations. The problem I have with Unborn But Forgotten and others like it is the use of modern technology as a horror device. My problem here is that I just don’t find websites scary at all. Maybe it’s because I write for one, run one myself and know that any evil spirit who wants to haunt a website will need to be pretty good with Flash and HTML. Or maybe it’s just because the internet is too new. For me, books and paintings are scary because they’ve been around for thousands of years and you can believe that someone could have put a curse on them many centuries ago. Either way, I find it difficult to be frightened by a ghost that is essentially a geek (no offence intended to our webmaster!).
In order to move the story forward or maintain a sense of mystery, certain plot points don’t make a lot of sense. For example, Lee is a supposed cyber crime expert who is trying to find out who runs the spooky website, but any techie worth his salt knows he could at least start with a WHOIS search. A lot of time is spent in close up shots with characters talking to each other but overall, not a lot happens between the credits and the final showdown. The interaction between the protagonists is dull and humourless and everyone involved seems to be taking themselves far too seriously.

The scary moments are few and far between and when they do come along, they’re sprung on us without much build-up, which leads me to suspect Unborn But Forgotten has been edited considerably to a merciful ninety-one minutes. It’s not the worst film in the world but there’s nothing to recommend and if you’re a big fan of Ringu looking for a good scare, you’d be better off watching that film again rather than going anywhere near this.
Video
It’s business as usual for our friends at Tartan, which means the picture has a good selection of the things that stop the disc getting a decent video score. Dirt and scratches are commonplace on a picture that’s fuzzy and lacking in detail, especially in long shots. The grainy black and white opening scene is effective in creating an atmosphere but once the movie starts after the credits have ended, it’s difficult to work out how much of the visual style of the opening is intended and how much just happens to be there because of the shoddy video quality of the master.

Audio
Tartan must have recently found a magical box that remasters audio tracks with DTS in the dumpster round the back of their offices. Either that or they’re spending all their money on the soundtracks in spite of the quality of the movies themselves. Whichever scenario is true, it’s an odd business practice and I find it difficult to believe the addition of a DTS badge to the DVD covers results in considerably more sales. That said, the audio quality of Unborn But Forgotten is very good and the soundtrack is full of powerful music and horror effects, no matter how clichéd they may be.
Extras
The menu looks quite nice. Oh, you want to know about the extras as well? I wouldn’t bother asking if I were you but if you insist…
The trailer comes without subtitles and the quality is sub-VHS. That brings us to the ‘On the Set’ featurette, which isn’t really a featurette, just fifty-four minutes of un-edited, un-subtitled clips of the cast and crew on set. And that’s it. There’s no voiceover to tell you who these people are, what they’re doing or why they’re doing it. Just nearly an hour of pointless footage that’s as entertaining as watching the grass grow.

Overall
I get the feeling Tartan are running out of barrels to scrape and the Asian horror industry is in dire need of a kick up the backside if Unborn But Forgotten is anything to go by. I’m struggling to work out which movies are the most unoriginal: the ‘scary girl’ horror movies being churned out in Korea and Japan or their Hollywood remakes. Needless to say, this DVD is not worth picking up for either the film itself or the filler that is thinly disguised as special features.
Review by Scott McKenzie
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Yikes, Scott. Now that's what I call 'Reviewer Agony'.
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Dustin wrote: Yikes, Scott. Now that's what I call 'Reviewer Agony'.
Thanks Dustin
I keep pinning my hopes on these types of movies but more often than not they let me down. And as someone who works in IT, badly-written uses of technology wind me up something rotten!
Thanks Dustin
I keep pinning my hopes on these types of movies but more often than not they let me down. And as someone who works in IT, badly-written uses of technology wind me up something rotten!
What, you mean that not all email programs flash up a huge screen-sized picture of an envelope when you have new mail? Jeez... Ah well, at least I can sleep safe in the knowledge that if we're ever invaded by aliens all we need is an iMac.
What's Ringu?
Trap Door wrote: What's Ringu?
The original Japanese Ring movie.
The original Japanese Ring movie.
And I thought Gabe got all the good ones...
Worst Nightmare wrote: And I thought Gabe got all the good ones...
Lucky for him this one was on region 2
Lucky for him this one was on region 2
....and the R1 version came out before I was Tartan's regular go to guy. Honestly, everyone, just see A Tale of Two Sisters, maybe Organ if you have the time. At this point I'll be utterly shocked if one of these Asian horror movies does a thing for me.
I guess The Red Shoes had its moments.
I guess The Red Shoes had its moments.
Mal wrote: Trap Door wrote: What's Ringu?
The original Japanese Ring movie.Although, if you want to be precise: The Japanese original is called Ring, not Ringu. Sure, Japanese people pronounce the word like Ringu, but that's not the title of the movie
.
The original Japanese Ring movie.Although, if you want to be precise: The Japanese original is called Ring, not Ringu. Sure, Japanese people pronounce the word like Ringu, but that's not the title of the movie
Aw, c'mon. I agree, Unborn but Forgotten stank it up but I thought Marebito was quite good, and maybe enjoyed it more than Ju-On. Tartan has done some cool stuff. I did some research for an article that never was where I took 6 Tartan titles that they described as being of the horror genre that were out at the time and of the six films, some of were bad but half of them were pretty neat:
Abnormal Beauty: bad but interesting (I'd give it 3/5 stars for how unexpected the break between the two halves of the film was; it's probably my fav Pang Bros. film, although I've yet to see The Eye and the only other one I have seen is Bangkok Haunted)
Face: confusing and ultimately a let-down but still, it was watchable (2.5/5)
R-Point: very entertaining and engaging K-horror flick (4/5 stars)
Vital: I love Tsukamoto and am hesitant to call this a horror film (they called it horror/drama) but like almost everything he's done, I really liked it (4/5; the only Tsukamoto film I would hesitate in recommending is Tetsuo 1; I thought it was ok but prefer stuff like A Snake of June and Gemini)
Spider Forest: I've seen three films by Song Il Gon, including this one and this was the reason why I saw the other two and am looking forward to more (4/5).
Unborn but Forgotten: I would agree with your review for the most part; not very good
Abnormal Beauty: bad but interesting (I'd give it 3/5 stars for how unexpected the break between the two halves of the film was; it's probably my fav Pang Bros. film, although I've yet to see The Eye and the only other one I have seen is Bangkok Haunted)
Face: confusing and ultimately a let-down but still, it was watchable (2.5/5)
R-Point: very entertaining and engaging K-horror flick (4/5 stars)
Vital: I love Tsukamoto and am hesitant to call this a horror film (they called it horror/drama) but like almost everything he's done, I really liked it (4/5; the only Tsukamoto film I would hesitate in recommending is Tetsuo 1; I thought it was ok but prefer stuff like A Snake of June and Gemini)
Spider Forest: I've seen three films by Song Il Gon, including this one and this was the reason why I saw the other two and am looking forward to more (4/5).
Unborn but Forgotten: I would agree with your review for the most part; not very good
Thing is, the Asian horror boom mostly subsided a long time ago. A lot of films getting issued are from a back-catalogue some six or seven years old, sometimes older. I mean, Hayanbang (Unborn but Unforgotten) was first released in S Korea in 2002.
The man who is being very clever is Takashige Ichise. He's producing J-Horror films that aren't even intended for Japan!
The modern Ichise formula seems to be: make a horror film with the usual J-Horror twists, but one that is easily adaptable for an American audience.
Release the film in Asia where it'll make a little bit of money. Sell said film's rights to a Hollywood studio for lots of money.
Get paid to hold back releasing the original version in the US until the Hollywood version gets released. Get a cut of the Hollywood film's box office, even if it tanks. Get a cut of the Hollywood film's DVD sales, even if it sinks.
Release the original version on DVD and on the art house cinema circuit in Europe via Tartan, Optimum, Premier Asia or any other distributor keen to get on the Asian film bandwagon. Film snobs like me will always pay to see the original over the remake!
The tragedy is that I love Asian cinema in general (at least 100 of my films on DVD originate from China, Japan, S Korea or Viet Nam!) and would rather watch a bad J-Horror or K-Horror than a bad US horror!
I doubt I'll buy Unborn But Forgotten for 20 quid, but if it turned up on Amazon for a fiver I might add it to my list to get Supersaver delivery!!
And, of course, Ichise's latest project is the Nakata Hideo film Kaidan!!
The man who is being very clever is Takashige Ichise. He's producing J-Horror films that aren't even intended for Japan!
The modern Ichise formula seems to be: make a horror film with the usual J-Horror twists, but one that is easily adaptable for an American audience.
Release the film in Asia where it'll make a little bit of money. Sell said film's rights to a Hollywood studio for lots of money.
Get paid to hold back releasing the original version in the US until the Hollywood version gets released. Get a cut of the Hollywood film's box office, even if it tanks. Get a cut of the Hollywood film's DVD sales, even if it sinks.
Release the original version on DVD and on the art house cinema circuit in Europe via Tartan, Optimum, Premier Asia or any other distributor keen to get on the Asian film bandwagon. Film snobs like me will always pay to see the original over the remake!
The tragedy is that I love Asian cinema in general (at least 100 of my films on DVD originate from China, Japan, S Korea or Viet Nam!) and would rather watch a bad J-Horror or K-Horror than a bad US horror!
I doubt I'll buy Unborn But Forgotten for 20 quid, but if it turned up on Amazon for a fiver I might add it to my list to get Supersaver delivery!!
And, of course, Ichise's latest project is the Nakata Hideo film Kaidan!!
Sjekster wrote: Mal wrote: Trap Door wrote: What's Ringu?
The original Japanese Ring movie.Although, if you want to be precise: The Japanese original is called Ring, not Ringu. Sure, Japanese people pronounce the word like Ringu, but that's not the title of the movie
.
they don't pronounce the uwwweeee
Also since this is a UK release he should be calling it "Ring" since the Ring films are titled as "Ring" in the UK. Only in America are they called Ringu. The original title is "Ring".
The original Japanese Ring movie.Although, if you want to be precise: The Japanese original is called Ring, not Ringu. Sure, Japanese people pronounce the word like Ringu, but that's not the title of the movie
they don't pronounce the uwwweeee
Also since this is a UK release he should be calling it "Ring" since the Ring films are titled as "Ring" in the UK. Only in America are they called Ringu. The original title is "Ring".
Simon Abrams wrote: Aw, c'mon. I agree, Unborn but Forgotten stank it up but I thought Marebito was quite good, and maybe enjoyed it more than Ju-On. Tartan has done some cool stuff. I did some research for an article that never was where I took 6 Tartan titles that they described as being of the horror genre that were out at the time and of the six films, some of were bad but half of them were pretty neat:
Abnormal Beauty: bad but interesting (I'd give it 3/5 stars for how unexpected the break between the two halves of the film was; it's probably my fav Pang Bros. film, although I've yet to see The Eye and the only other one I have seen is Bangkok Haunted)
Face: confusing and ultimately a let-down but still, it was watchable (2.5/5)
R-Point: very entertaining and engaging K-horror flick (4/5 stars)
Vital: I love Tsukamoto and am hesitant to call this a horror film (they called it horror/drama) but like almost everything he's done, I really liked it (4/5; the only Tsukamoto film I would hesitate in recommending is Tetsuo 1; I thought it was ok but prefer stuff like A Snake of June and Gemini)
Spider Forest: I've seen three films by Song Il Gon, including this one and this was the reason why I saw the other two and am looking forward to more (4/5).
Unborn but Forgotten: I would agree with your review for the most part; not very good
I liked Marebito more than Ju-On as well, but still thought it was a misfire. I started reviewing Tartan USA titles a little too late to ever see Spider Forest or this film. I'd say R-Point was the best of the bunch. The thing is that Marebito and R-Point are both different stylistically from Ringu, which still backs up my general but poorly defined theory that all Ringu like Asian horror films are weak and not worth my time.
I'm remembering that I actually enjoyed One Missed call now, but again, just enough to suggest it to J-Horror fanatics.
Oh yeah, Uzumaki was great. There's a great Asian horror film.
Abnormal Beauty: bad but interesting (I'd give it 3/5 stars for how unexpected the break between the two halves of the film was; it's probably my fav Pang Bros. film, although I've yet to see The Eye and the only other one I have seen is Bangkok Haunted)
Face: confusing and ultimately a let-down but still, it was watchable (2.5/5)
R-Point: very entertaining and engaging K-horror flick (4/5 stars)
Vital: I love Tsukamoto and am hesitant to call this a horror film (they called it horror/drama) but like almost everything he's done, I really liked it (4/5; the only Tsukamoto film I would hesitate in recommending is Tetsuo 1; I thought it was ok but prefer stuff like A Snake of June and Gemini)
Spider Forest: I've seen three films by Song Il Gon, including this one and this was the reason why I saw the other two and am looking forward to more (4/5).
Unborn but Forgotten: I would agree with your review for the most part; not very good
I liked Marebito more than Ju-On as well, but still thought it was a misfire. I started reviewing Tartan USA titles a little too late to ever see Spider Forest or this film. I'd say R-Point was the best of the bunch. The thing is that Marebito and R-Point are both different stylistically from Ringu, which still backs up my general but poorly defined theory that all Ringu like Asian horror films are weak and not worth my time.
I'm remembering that I actually enjoyed One Missed call now, but again, just enough to suggest it to J-Horror fanatics.
Oh yeah, Uzumaki was great. There's a great Asian horror film.


Suitable only for persons of 18 years and over
Disc Details
Release Date:
4th December 2006
Discs:
1
Disc Type:
Single side, dual layer
RCE:
No
Video:
PAL
Aspect:
1.85:1
Anamorphic:
Yes
Colour:
Yes
Audio:
Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo Korean, Dolby Digital 5.1 Korean, DTS 5.1 Korean
Subtitles:
English
Extras:
On the Set, Trailer
Easter Egg:
No
Feature Details
Director:
Chang-Jae Lim
Cast:
Jun-Ho Jeong, Eun-Ju Lee, Ji-Yu Kim, Seong-Yong Kye
Genre:
Horror
Length:
91 minutes



